Comments on: Palm Pre: Two Months In

By: payasyougomobilephones

payasyougomobilephones — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:05:05 +0000

In the UK the Palm Pre has done an exclusive deal with mobile phone operator O2. Well I guess I have to wait a little longer to get one for myself. I am an Orange UK customer and I have still five month left on my contract until then I can only dream of owning one.

pay as you go mobile phones

By: mxcl

mxcl — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:42:13 +0000

OMG the dangers of the iPhone app model! Run for the hills!

People seem to forget that before iPhone there was no such concept as decent software on your phone. And certainly nobody was getting rich of 99 cents sales. You people amaze me. Sure the app store suits apple just fine, they love it being closed and theirs. But there are still a tonne of reasons to use and support it.

Stop being scaredy cats and get practical.

By: althe3rd

althe3rd — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:26:50 +0000

I'm sorry to say that for the most part you are going to receive the same sort of draconian policies from Palm. Their is the homebrew section for those people who will do a rather trivial hack to get the apps on their but its no where near the convenience and simplicity their real app store will have when its ready.

I willing to grant that at this point since Palm doesn't have to deal with the same app volume as Apple that the feedback from the Palm reviewers is more detailed but their demands on your app are very similar.

Lets just step back for a second and take something in. Apple has a rejection rate of less than .03% So while they are getting some rightly deserved heat over a few of the rejections, I think the process will improve as Apple finally gets more reviewers hired so each reviewer is given more than 10 seconds per app.

I love the Pre. I love its notifications method, its face book integration. And while I prefer to have better battery life than running a game at the same time I compose an email (my silly example is to point out that most of the time we don't need to multitask), I can still appreciate the usefulness of it. By apple allowing their first party apps to run in the background of the iPhone and allowing third party apps to revive previous states, the lines between running an app on the background on the iPhone have blurred. Many of the videos that Palm showcases about the webos and what it lets you do (write and email and half way through then jump to sms to grab part of the text and copy and paste it into the email in progress) I can do on the iPhone due to what I mentioned above.

What I ulitmately appreciate is people like Lin who take the time to write their reviews of these various platforms. It lets all of us get some perspective on phones that maybe some of us don't interact with very often.

By: lhl

lhl — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:53:57 +0000

Yeah, on a better day I would have just deleted the comment, but layovers make me cranky. I have comments enabled for interesting conversation, not for anonymous manchildren to come and crap in my internet living room you know? (there's cerainly enough space to do that, although I suspect that if more people enforced community standards, that these sort of pointless posts wouldn't be quite as common.)

By: John

John — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 06:39:53 +0000

I'm an iPhone developer, but right now I'd switch to the Pre at the drop of a hat (if it were available in the UK). The reason: the App Store's draconian review policies – shit sandwich doesn't even start to address how bad it is. And this is despite having a pretty successful and profitable application. Apple are piling up some serious disgruntlement amongst developers and I totally agree that this is not how we want mobile platforms to pan out.

By: Brad Barrish

Brad Barrish — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:39:35 +0000

Very nice review, Leonard. I'm still not buying one. I switched from a BlackBerry to an iPhone and I'm pretty happy about it (so far). No matter how evil Apple has been with te App Store, it's the best damn mobile device there is.

By: kellyp

kellyp — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:12:33 +0000

I know what you are getting at but there is an awful lot of red on this page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_layo…;

even with webkit's speed it will be a while for that.

By: hariseldon24

hariseldon24 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 03:10:04 +0000

Your response seems a bit harsh, the article stated “The experience is absolutely not as good as the iPhone”, so the term “inferior product” is apt.

By: sachxn

sachxn — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 02:04:56 +0000

I haven't used pre..only iPhone…and your review saved my MONEY…..atleast for now…thanks

By: lhl

lhl — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 00:13:47 +0000

Hey semi-anonymous Internet Jackass. Normally I don't get baited by mouth-breathers without the self-esteem to post with their true name, but your lack of reading comprehension, simplistic worldview, and my hour-long layover makes this your lucky day. In case you missed the very first bullet point, the fact that the Pre on Sprint actually has connectivity and doesn't drop calls really sort of blows away your "inferior product" construct right out of the water.

Now, how about you tell me how many clicks it takes to check new mail messages in 7 inboxes in iPhone Mail? Or how your experience is when you're typing a text or email and receive notifications? How's the Facebook sync? Or running background apps? That's OK, I carry around my iPhone 3G with me in my bag and I use it both for development testing and for running some sweet apps.

Did your fanboy head just explode that something could be better on different axes, or that multiple things could be good and bad at different things?

Go troll elsewhere (and really, for your own good, grow the fuck up).